320i enough. The power difference in city driving is negligible.
U will only feel the power diff at very high speeds
330i u reach 180-200kmh u can tekan and go even faster
320i u reach 200kmh slightly out of breath already
Nope, most driving is done under 110kmh, the 330i’s 400Nm makes it a very easy drive
Dont menyesal, save couple tens of thousands and buy an interior car. We are not talking extra 250k (price of a new BMW) for the M340i CBU, we are just talking about 50k extra which will give a satisfying performance
You drive 320i, and feel ever so slightly that the car could use more torque, and you will kick yourself for choosing an interior option.
Jun 7 2020, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 7 2020, 09:01 AM)
Nope, most driving is done under 110kmh, the 330i’s 400Nm makes it a very easy drive
Dont menyesal, save couple tens of thousands and buy an interior car. We are not talking extra 250k (price of a new BMW) for the M340i CBU, we are just talking about 50k extra which will give a satisfying performance
You drive 320i, and feel ever so slightly that the car could use more torque, and you will kick yourself for choosing an interior option.
Driving in the city u wont be able to maximize the 400Nm torque la trust me. U have to floor the pedal each and every time to be able to feel the difference.
My car 350Nm torque oso i feel useless in city drive.
Jun 7 2020, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jun 7 2020, 09:07 AM)
Driving in the city u wont be able to maximize the 400Nm torque la trust me. U have to floor the pedal each and every time to be able to feel the difference.
My car 350Nm torque oso i feel useless in city drive.
Torque is important for acceleration, which is important to wiggle through the traffic and at times overtaking
You need to compare the torque curves between the 330i vs 320i B48s, if you feel that the higher torque is «useless», maybe you dont need to be at places quick enough
Im not talking about speeding, but to beat the traffic, especially beating cars that are hogging the lanes. Torque is important, if not try driving a 120Nm car on the road and you will feel like crap
290Nm vs 400Nm is huge, just pay for the 330i which is only rm50k extra. But if you opt for the 320i, you will feel bad once you tried the 330i. I have tried both, and the 320i felt underwhelming.
In the end, to each his own, maybe some people don’t need anything more than 100Nm, from which there is always used 318i F30 in the market.
P/s you are mistaken about the full pedal thing, you need to try the 330i G20 and turn on the sports display to see the torque numbers when driving
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Jun 7 2020, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 7 2020, 09:16 AM)
Torque is important for acceleration, which is important to wiggle through the traffic and at times overtaking
You need to compare the torque curves between the 330i vs 320i B48s, if you feel that the higher torque is «useless», maybe you dont need to be at places quick enough
Im not talking about speeding, but to beat the traffic, especially beating cars that are hogging the lanes. Torque is important, if not try driving a 120Nm car on the road and you will feel like crap
290Nm vs 400Nm is huge, just pay for the 330i which is only rm50k extra. But if you opt for the 320i, you will feel bad once you tried the 330i. I have tried both, and the 320i felt underwhelming.
In the end, to each his own, maybe some people don’t need anything more than 100Nm, from which there is always used 318i F30 in the market.
P/s you are mistaken about the full pedal thing, you need to try the 330i G20 and turn on the sports display to see the torque numbers when driving
Trust me la. U buy 330i, u immediately throwing extra 50k down the drain due to terrible BMW depreciation . A 320i is more than enough for city driving.
R u saying a 320i is unable to overtake a road hogger? R u like rushing to places everyday?
I used to think like u that everything must buy the top spec one. But after a while i realise that its not the case. More than often the midrange ones are way more than enough to do the job.
Its not like we r racing everyday.
Btw of course a car with 120nm will feel crap. But we are talking 300nm torque here
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The BMW 3 Series has been given a high-tech update for 2023, but some of its ‘improvements’ feel like sideways steps at best.
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- Still drives like a BMW 3 Series
- Represents decent value beside C-Class
- New screens look high-end
- New tech is less user-friendly than before
- Price hike relative to 2021
- Ride is choppy on M Sport suspension
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Projekt BMW řady 3 is a mid-sized luxury sedan staple.
It’s been at or close to the top of its class since the reign of the E30, and the latest G21 is no exception.
The pre-facelift model was our pick of the mid-sized sedan crop despite strong competition from the usual suspects at Mercedes-Benz and Audi, along with upstart challengers from Genesis and Alfa Romeo.
Along with a new look, the 320 wades into battle in 2023 with a higher price tag and an overhauled interior. Buttons are out and glossy, curved touchscreens are in, as BMW brings the 3er into line with the newer i4 and iX electric vehicles.
Has a mid-life nip-and-tuck improved on the 3 Series formula for 2023?
How does the BMW 3 Series fare vs its competitors?
View a detailed breakdown of the BMW 3 Series against similarly sized vehicles.
How much does the BMW 320i cost?
The BMW 3 Series has been hit with a significant price hike for 2023.
The base 320i on test here is $5400 more expensive than the car it replaces, while the 330i is up more than $10,000.
Even with that accounted for, the 3er represents solid value alongside the new Mercedes-Benz C-Class. The C200 kicks off at $81,700 before on-roads, and some of the equipment included on the 3er is hidden in an options package on the C.
The Audi A4 45 TFSI S line quattro is more powerful than the 320i, and features all-wheel drive, but undercuts the BMW with a sticker price of $75,700 before on-roads.
2023 BMW 3 Series pricing:
- BMW 320i: 78,900 XNUMX dolarů
- BMW 330i: 93,400 XNUMX dolarů
- BMW 330i Touring: $94,400
- BMW 330e: $97,400
- M340i xDrive: $104,990
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What is the BMW 320i like on the inside?
The big news behind the wheel is a pair of new, high-resolution screens. The last 3er wasn’t exactly old-fashioned, but the new model picks up the one-piece curved dashboard display debuted in the i4 and iX.
It looks incredibly modern, and there’s no doubt it’s cleaner than before, but it’s also harder to use.
BMW has axed the physical climate control buttons from the dashboard and buried them in the touchscreen. Although you can change the temperature without a sub-menu, but fan speed, direction, and recirculation are hidden.
Worse, you’re not able to use the rotary controller on the transmission tunnel to access that part of the infotainment system, it has to be touch-activated.
At risk of dedicating příliš mnoho time to talking about one function of the car’s infotainment system, it’s infuriating that manufacturers continue to ignore usability in favour of clean looks… and the cost savings that come with axing small, fiddly buttons.
It’s also a shame because the rest of the technology in the 3er is excellent. The driver’s display looks modern and is easy to use on the move, the latest take on iDrive is fast and functional, and BMW has one of the most reliable wireless Apple CarPlay connections in the game.
BMW generally gets the driving position right, and that’s the case in the 3 Series. The driver’s seat drops right down to the floor, the steering wheel comes out nicely to meet the driver, and the seats themselves strike a nice blend between support and comfort.
They also look great in M Sport trim, with a lovely combination of suede-like inserts and faux leather bolsters. This might be a base model, but it doesn’t feel sparse or pared-back inside.
There’s plenty of storage spaces on offer, from the wireless phone charger and cupholders under a damped lid, to the decent-sized underarm bin. There are also door bins with space for big bottles, and a spacious glovebox.
Rear seat space is up there with the best in class, allowing for adults to sit behind adults provided neither is freakishly tall.
Headroom is also good, and the bench itself is wide enough to ride three-up for shorter trips. With a relatively conventional three-box design, you get plenty of light through the tall windows.
You get air vents in the rear, along with dual USB-C chargers to keep the kids happy. There’s a fold-down central armrest, and spacious door bins, and the door opening is wider than that of some lower-volume Korean and Italian rivals. That means you’re able to more easily load in children or bags.
There are ISOFIX points on the outboard rear seats, and three top-tether mounts for child seats.
Bootovací prostor je nárokován 480 litrů, and the boot opening is impressively square and wide.
Although sedans aren’t known for the practicality in a world dominated by SUVs, there are a few neat little practical touches in the back of the latest 3er.
The rear bench folds 40/20/40, and there are deep pockets behind the wheel arches that are perfect for dirty shoes you want to keep separate from the rest of your cargo, or valuables you don’t want sliding around.
Co je pod kapotou?
The BMW 320i is powered by a 2.0-litre turbocharged four-cylinder engine produkující 135 kW síly a 300 Nm točivého momentu.
It’s mated with an eight-speed ZF torque converter automatic, and the 3er is rear-wheel drive.
Udávaná spotřeba paliva je 6.3 litrů na 100 km on the combined cycle, we saw 6.9L/100km over a week with a skew to highway driving.
Palivová nádrž drží 59 litrů, and the 320i drinks 95 RON premium unleaded fuel.
How does the BMW 320i drive?
The engine and transmission in the 320i are unchanged for 2023, and based on our time behind the wheel Munich hasn’t messed with the suspension and steering much either. In the case of the engine, that’s a good thing.
The 2.0-litre used in the 320i and 330i is a peach, with plenty of low-down torque and a zingy top end that encourages you to push it hard in a way rival four-pot units don’t. It even makes a decent snarl when you put your foot down.
Even in its least powerful guise, the engine packs enough of a punch to make the 3er feel quick around town.
The eight-speed ZF transmission slurs smoothly through the lower gears on light throttle inputs to the point you can’t really feel it working or tell which gear you’re in, but it’s quick to kick down when you demand more performance and hangs onto gears smartly.
Although can you can take charge with the paddles (but not with the transmission selector anymore), it’s rare you’ll need to given how clever the car’s computer brain is. It’s also possible to flick into Sport using the stubby gear lever, which forces the car to hang onto a lower gear.
Unfortunately, BMW hasn’t improved on the choppy ride that afflicted the pre-update 320i. Where higher-end models feature adaptive dampers, the base car has a fixed-rate suspension that errs too far on the sporty side.
It never crashes or bashes into bumps, but it also never settles down. Over smaller imperfections it feels as if the car is constantly moving up and down, and the body doesn’t breathe when you hit larger crests or dips.
Body control is absolute – you could never accuse the 320i of feeling floaty – but it also never relaxes, which isn’t a particularly likeable trait in what’s meant to be a base model. Previous experience with a 3 Series featuring adaptive dampers revealed it’s a more comfortable car.
The fat-rimmed steering wheel won’t be to everyone’s taste but the steering is nice and direct, and the 3er still has a nice rear-wheel drive balance to it. Anyone hoping for an E30 reincarnated will be disappointed, but the world has moved on.
There’s still a strand of sporting DNA in the 3 Series, and that’s about all we can ask for.
What it’s lost in outright sportiness, it’s gained in refinement. Dimensionally the latest 3 is close to a match for the E39 5 Series, and the way it hums silently along at a cruise wouldn’t have felt out of place in an old 7 Series.
Coarse chip highways don’t completely undermine the refinement either, which isn’t always the case in German luxury cars.
With the semiconductor crunch hopefully abating, the 320i now features a full suite of active driver assists. The adaptive cruise and lane-keeping assist are smartly calibrated, and the excellent rear-view camera and parking sensors mean there’s no excuse for scraped wheels.
Hlavní přednosti 320i:
- 18palcová M litá kola
- M sportovní balíček
- LED světlomety
- Asistent dálkových paprsků
- 14.9-inch touchscreen infotainment system (NEW)
- 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster (NEW)
- Head-up displej
- Digitální rádio DAB+
- Satelitní navigace
- HiFi loudspeaker system
- Připojený balíček Professional
- Wireless charging tray
- Bezklíčový vstup se startováním tlačítkem
- BMW Digital Key (NEW)
- Sportovní sedadla
- Alcantara/Sensatec upholstery
- Elektrické nastavení sedadla
- Ambientní osvětlení interiéru
- Galvanic embellishers
Je BMW řady 3 bezpečné?
The pre-update BMW 3 Series was crash tested by ANCAP in 2019 and received a five-star safety rating. This rating doesn’t apply to the M340i xDrive, which remains unrated by ANCAP and Euro NCAP.
Standard safety features across the 3 Series range include:
- AEB with pedestrian detection
- Upozornění na opuštění jízdního pruhu
- Sledování mrtvého úhlu
- Monitorování pozornosti řidiče
- Zadní upozornění na příčnou dopravu
- Adaptivní tempomat
- DrivingAsistent
- Poloautonomní parkovací asistent
- Couvací kamera
- Přední, zadní parkovací senzory
- 8 airbagů
The 330i and above get Parking Assistant Plus which includes a park view, panorama view and Remote 3D view functions.
Driving Assistant Professional, which includes Front cross-traffic alert and lane centring assist, is standard on the 330i and above, and is optional on the base 320i.
How much does the BMW 320i cost to run?
The BMW 3 Series range is covered by a pětiletá záruka bez omezení kilometrů with five years of roadside assist.
Having previously held out against the trend to longer warranties, BMW in 2021 confirmed it was ditching its three-year coverage in favour of a Mercedes-Benz and Audi-matching five-year warranty.
BMW offers a five-year/80,000km Service Inclusive Basic warranty package priced at $1800.
CarExpert’s Take on the BMW 320i
As was previously the case, the BMW 3 Series is a practical mid-sized sedan with something to offer people who drive for the sake of it, not just to get from one place to another.
It still shapes as the mid-sized luxury sedan to beat, but some of the changes BMW has made have the potential to loosen its grip on the crown.
The new infotainment system looks expensive, but it’s less user-friendly in a few key ways than the ostensibly lower-tech setup that came before it.
Given this is the entry point to the BMW 3 Series range, the price hike for 2023 also hurts.
A face-off with the new C-Class and the ageing but solid Audi A4 looms large in the future…
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