Just hit my first 5K miles. It states maintanence required.
Was not going to get the oil changed just yet. is there a way to diable the message on the dash? It is a S plus if it makes any difference.
Donabed Kopoian
6 Speed Master
Wait until you get the vehicle serviced*, and then disable it. When you reset it, it may get recorded by the PCM and it could lead to warranty issues if they believe you were resetting it just to get rid of the warning and not when you actually did it.
However (and at your own risk), get the car to trip A. Shut it off. Hold the trip reset down, and turn to ignition on, and keep holding it until you see lines disappear and 0000, then it should be reset.
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fishycomics
Super moderátor
Just hit my first 5K miles. It states maintanence required.
Was not going to get the oil changed just yet. is there a way to diable the message on the dash? It is a S plus if it makes any difference.
Each vehicle varies. When you try it in Odometer , fails, try it in trip A, and try in trip B. Each vehicle varies.
to find out if info is truly recorded, you can visit your Toyota dealer, and they will do the following
Mark you down for a visit at the dealer , on the Computer, that gets recorded, per visit and info that the mechanic does, noted to their system that gets passed to car fax reports.
Maintenance Required Light. simply turn it off and change your Oil per your discretion.
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Donabed Kopoian
6 Speed Master
It’s different for the 2014 since Odometer is always displayed, and it varies between the non-information display cluster and the information display cluster.
Information display cluster is the same as always except you are in Trip A
For the non-information display cluster, you use the DISP button on the wheel to display Odometer, then hold DISP when you turn the car on.
TigerHeli
Nový člen
From the owners manual — I didn’t think the non-information display cluster had the maintenance required light at all.
Wait until you get the oil changed, and then disable it. When you reset it, it may get recorded by the PCM and it could lead to warranty issues if they believe you were resetting it just to get rid of the warning and not when you actually did it.
No — bad advice. The light comes on at 5K miles to remind you to check the coolant level and hoses and change the oil if it was non-synthetic (well, not 0W-20) at the last oil change.
If you use 0W-20 and the recommended 10K mile OCI, you want to reset the light now, or you won’t get a notification at 10K miles (or you have to drive 5 months with the light on — which isn’t good either).
It’s not a great system — IMHO, no better than my 1984 Accord system — where I routinely changed the oil every 3K miles and reset the indicator whenever it flipped from green to yellow (and did NOTHING to the car at the time)
stusmith
Nový člen
So this begs the question: If you change your own oil, what kind of records should you/must you maintain that «proves» you kept up with maintenance in case of a problem that should be covered under warranty down the road?
Donabed Kopoian
6 Speed Master
Stusmith, I wrote down the mileage of the reset and kept the reciepts. All you really can do.
Tiger, the 1ZZ and 2ZR use full synthetic, with the 2ZR having 10k intervals. The maintenance required light is a sign to rotate tires, on top of everything else.
If you aren’t doing the work yourself and you reset the light anyway, the dealer may note that the second you skip a service with them. It’s paranoid, yes, but why chance it?
Donabed Kopoian
6 Speed Master
Wait, I found my error and edited the post accordingly.
TigerHeli
Nový člen
So this begs the question: If you change your own oil, what kind of records should you/must you maintain that «proves» you kept up with maintenance in case of a problem that should be covered under warranty down the road?
Scott O’Kashan will love me posting this, but we are over-thinking this . Directly from the 2014 Corolla Warranty and Maintenance Document:
ÚDRŽBA
You are responsible for performance of
the required maintenance indicated in the
Owner’s Manual and this booklet. Toyota
will not deny a warranty claim solely
because you do not have records to show
that you maintained your vehicle. However,
any failure or noncompliance caused by
lack of maintenance is not covered by this
záruka.
When maintenance and repairs are paid
for by you, these services may be
performed by you or by any automotive
service provider you choose. Toyota will
not deny a warranty claim solely
because you used a service provider
other than a Toyota dealership for
maintenance and repairs. However, any
failure or noncompliance caused by
improper maintenance or repairs is not
krytá touto zárukou.
Basically — if you skipped an oil change, you are probably okay, but if it is pretty obvious that the engine was run for 50K to 100K miles without an oil change (based on condition), it is good to have receipts.
As Donabed said — it is a good idea to keep a log of when service was performed and keep your receipts. (That is for the Toyota warranty — if you got a third-party warranty from the dealer, it might require you to have service receipts — in this case, it might be worthwhile to make a deal with a mechanic if one would be agreeable: i.e. «I do my own oil changes, but I need a receipt for the oil changes. Let me pay you $5 or $40 and please give me a receipt for an oil change, but you don’t have to touch my car.» (Not sure this would work as the mechanic is somewhat accepting liability for the issue — i.e. if you didn’t change the oil, if you stripped out the drain plug . )
Tiger, the 1ZZ and 2ZR use full synthetic, with the 2ZR having 10k intervals.
Not sure what the 1ZZ and 2ZR are — I googled it and didn’t come up with anything useful — I think the 2014 USA Corolla uses the 2ZR with valvematic on the LE ECO versions.
Note, the Maintenance Guide is somewhat in error on this — it says 0W-20 has a 10K mile or 12months, but 5W-20 mineral oil is acceptable, but if it is used, the oil must be changed back at 5K miles or 6 months to 0W-20 oil.
- In theory, if they ever make dino 0W-20 oil, I am fine to run that for 10K miles, even though that is not intended — moot point as 0W-20 is full synthetic by definition currently.
- The book doesn’t say ANYTHING about 5W-20 Synthetic oil. In theory, that should be good for 10K miles as well, but the book doesn’t mention it at all.
- According to the book, I can’t just use 5W-20 Dino oil at 5K intervals indefinitely. I can use it once, but then I have to switch back to 0W-20. (As written, I could use it every OTHER oil change).
- The maintenance intervals don’t line up — i.e. it says at 10K, 20K, 30K miles, I have to change the oil, but at 15K, 25K, 35K, I have to change the oil if 5W20 was used last time. Let’s look at this in practice — at 10K miles, I decide to use 5W-20 oil. At 15K, I change back to 0W20 oil per the manual. This should be good for 10K miles, but when I hit 20K miles, the book is going to tell me to change the oil again.
The maintenance required light is a sign to rotate tires, on top of everything else.
Technicky:
Check installation of driver’s floor mat
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels
Zkontrolujte lišty stěračů
Otočte pneumatiky
Visually inspect brake linings/drums and
brake pads/discs
And some other things for severe service, but in reality .
Wiper blades and tires aren’t covered under the warranty — it doesn’t say to re-balance the tires or align the front end. Non-rotated tires will wear sooner, but it is unlikely even a badly unbalanced tire would wear out the shocks, and they don’t tell you to balance them anyway. If I fail to check the coolant and the radiator runs dry at 7.5K miles, it is hard to verify if it leaked out in the last 2.5K miles or whether checking it at 5K would have prevented the issue — same with brake pads/linings.
If you aren’t doing the work yourself and you reset the light anyway, the dealer may note that the second you skip a service with them. It’s paranoid, yes, but why chance it?
Again — the risk is the same with or without the light .
i.e. If I reset the light without taking the car to the dealer, the dealer might say «You were due for an oil change at 10K miles». It is up to me if I want to have a receipt from Jiffy Lube, have a receipt for the purchase from Wal-Mart, or just say I changed the oil myself when I didn’t and hope the car doesn’t fail from old oil.
But the same thing is true if there were no light to reset — when I take the car to the dealer at 11K miles and he can’t show I brought it in at 10K for the oil change, he is going to tell me exactly the same thing with exactly the same options on my part.
My RAV beeps and tells me to be wary of ice anytime it reads 37 degrees or lower. Is there a way to turn this off? It gets annoying.
1203 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
I thought we recently had a discussion about that indicator but I don’t remember the outcome and I can’t find the thread.
Does it come on for you periodically during your drive or only after the key has been shut off will it be displayed during your next drive?
Začátek diskuse Thelt
47 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
I think it only does it once after you start the car.
1203 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
My car is garaged. I had it out a few mornings at freezing or below but never seen a warning. The most recent day was leaving the garage and stopping a mile away for coffee. I think it was cold enough to trip the light at that point but I’ve yet to see it.
Figured it would be once per cycle but not sure if they have a time between, or if it returns once it warms and cools within a drive.
It’s a nice feature but is nice if it can be disabled.
62 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
Interesting, I get flashing snowflake too for some seconds, then it just stays on, but no beep? Also didn’t find anything in the manual if there should even be a beep. Maybe it’s something else?
84 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
As far as I know, since this warning is related to safety, it can’t be turned off completely (the notification on the screen will remain), but it is possible to turn off the sound notification (such as the sound notification about seat belts). But it is not exactly. (Most likely I can clarify this in the coming days).
But to be honest, it doesn’t really bother me, because appears quite rarely (only 37F (+3С)) and only for a few seconds. Toyota cares about you.
84 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
Zkontroloval jsem.
Neither the text notification nor the sound can be turned off. Perhaps there is some complicated way (ECU reprogramming) or, on the contrary, a simpler one (break / disable the buzzer ), but it’s impossible to turn off this notification using standard software tools (Techstream, Carista etc.).
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I’ve scoured every menu in the car and also through my laptop connected through Techstream. It is not possible.
Another thing that drives me nuts is the lane keeping feature in town while using cruise. Every intersection or turn off I pass through that is missing lines for like 1 second I get that stupid BEEP BEEP before it sees the lines again. It’s so annoying that I just disable lane keeping everytime I get off the interstate.
I’ve never owned a car that nannied me so much in my life.
Tech Package — Weather Package — Panoramatická skleněná střecha
Digitální zpětné zrcátko — Vestavěné
45 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
I’ve never owned a car that nannied me so much in my life.
LOVE IT! So true.
1176 příspěvků · Připojeno 2017
My 1949 Chevy didn’t have any of this stuff. Of course . . . . .
Don’t drive intoxicated.
Don’t drive intexticated.
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I suppose it would have been possible to rig a warning system, but then, in 1949 pretty much everyone knew that hot coffee was hot, and that you shouldn’t eat the packaging that food came in. Today, not so much.
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I HATE this warning. It never seems to fire right when I turn on the car (even when parked outside), it’s randomly in the first few minutes each time and it startles me unnecessarily. Where I live, it’s 37 or lower for five months out of the year. I don’t need a daily reminder!
I had asked the dealer if they could disable it on my previous 2017 RAV, but nope.
282 příspěvků · Připojeno 2020
Please do not disable it. I got an ice warning at about midnight last night in my 2021 RAV4 Prime — right before I drove into freak, unexpected, wet blizzard on the I-15 freeway near the California/Nevada border. I very much appreciated the warning.
I had never tried to activate all wheel drive before last night, either. I pulled in behind a Target semi-trailer truck because it had bright tail lights, and we proceeded to do about 35 miles an hour, with four-way flashers on, until the snow turned back to rain. I could not see any lane markings in the white-out. Now I need to read up on how I should’ve activated all wheel drive. In a panic I just kept pushing the trail button.
leden
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Now I need to read up on how I should’ve activated all wheel drive. In a panic I just kept pushing the trail button.
leden
I don’t know about the newer RAVs, but my wife’s ’02 does not have any control to «activate» all wheel drive. It is my understanding that when the computer senses some degree of slippage between the front and rear wheels, it activates a clutch to engage the rear wheels. Nothing that YOU need to do. Some of the newer RAVs (maybe just trim levels or options?) might have a control to adjust the bias, but I am not aware of them.
In my opinion half the «crap» on these new cars benefit stupid people and bad drivers.
While I tend to agree completely, you do have to look at the rest of the picture.
The overwhelming majority of people on the road (I refuse to call them «drivers») are «stupid people and bad drivers».
For those of us who consider ourselves in the «above average» portion of both categories, all the crap can be a convenience, but it would be nice to have some control over it. I don’t mind a light coming on, but I don’t need constant audible alerts. I could probably tolerate a single beep to let you know the light came ON, but that’s all.
There is a temperature display, I don’t need a big snowflake as well to tell me when it’s cold.
Other posters were saying that they did not have a temp display, so the snowflake might not be so bad (as long as it’s silent). I have a temp display on my ’18 Sienna XLE, but don’t recall any warning symbols for icy conditions.
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230 příspěvků · Připojeno 2019
I dislike this warning, but my wife likes it. I’m pretty aware of the temperature all the time (maybe TOO aware) and so don’t feel I need my car to nag me about it. I guess it helps to know I couldn’t turn it off if I wanted to.
2020 RAV4 XSE Hybrid – Sliver Sky Metallic — Canadian made
1203 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
Some of the alerts and warnings are hard to deal with for daily drivers.
You folks in cold climates live there and duh, it’s cold because you just walked outside.
When it is useful though is for those traveling.
I had a vehicle years ago that alerted me with an LCD display «ICE» where the temperate belongs hanging from the roof console. It was neat to see that I’d been in the vehicle for a few hours and ended up in a cold enough climate that there could be frozen roadways. It wasn’t cold when I left and didn’t know what the mountain temperatures were going to be.
Another instance was prior to that when there were no such warnings. The wife and I were heading up and over a mountain pass (lots of them). It had been raining for a while. We stopped about dusk for dinner and resumed the commute after dark, no longer raining/snowing Not knowing our elevation or if it had turned cold made for a more defensive drive strategy for a while.
I like that there is an indicator for the weather changes. I would be good if they could offer to at least disable the audible alert -useful for folks who deal with it daily but nice for somebody like me who may otherwise think it is still 41 degrees like it was at low elevation 3 hours earlier.
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I like that there is an indicator for the weather changes. I would be good if they could offer to at least disable the audible alert
Today was the first time I saw the snowflake appear. I did not hear any alarm. Maybe they dropped that in the 2023? The owner’s manual makes no mention of an audible alert either.
912 příspěvků · Připojeno 2020
When the occasion occurs in north Texas that it does warn me, I just tap the return acknowledge button (the u bent arrow) on the left side of the steering wheel and it goes away.
1176 příspěvků · Připojeno 2017
Sounds pretty complicated for some of the posters. Don’t you have anything simpler??
Don’t drive intoxicated.
Don’t drive intexticated.
1203 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
Meh, we’re just used to not having to do anything we don’t want to.
Too difficult to turn on/off highbeams or headlights.
Too time-consuming and unnecessary to switch off the auto start/stop system EVERY.SINGLE.TIME the vehicle is started.
The stupid cruise control defaults to off every time the vehicle is shut off making us have to, you guessed it, turn it back on at the next occasion we want cruise control.
Note: this is not a Toyota thing, all manufactures have caused us havoc with having these few extra button presses.
We don’t want an older car because it doesn’t have newer things then we we have a new vehicle we say how easy it used to be before we had to have warnings.
We are human, we will never be plně spokojený.
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Meh, we’re just used to not having to do anything we don’t want to.
Too difficult to turn on/off highbeams or headlights.
Too time-consuming and unnecessary to switch off the auto start/stop system EVERY.SINGLE.TIME the vehicle is started.
The stupid cruise control defaults to off every time the vehicle is shut off making us have to, you guessed it, turn it back on at the next occasion we want cruise control.
Note: this is not a Toyota thing, all manufactures have caused us havoc with having these few extra button presses.
We don’t want an older car because it doesn’t have newer things then we we have a new vehicle we say how easy it used to be before we had to have warnings.
We are human, we will never be plně spokojený.
It’s funny how the more tech we get for convenience and safety the more people want to complain about it. People want tech specifically customized to their needs and want it to work perfectly 100% of the time. The comedian Louis CK had an awesome bit on how modern tech is just wasted on the most entitled, spoiled and dissatisfied generation in history. I was ecstatic years ago when I upgraded the OEM stereo in my 2006 Base V6 just to have bluetooth! Now my 2022 LE is lightyears ahead of the 4.3. A few aftermarket tweaks have made it just right. I still have the physical ability to open trunk hatch with the power in my arms, turn my headlights off and on with my fingers and keep my coat on until the heater makes it comfortable in winter weather!
1162 příspěvků · Připojeno 2014
Living in a colder climate I just ignore the warning altogether, simply based on outside temperature reading. I know that once the snow hits the ground in Nov until the start of spring April the roads are icy.
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I had this warning come on because we had an arctic blast. Very unusual here in Deep South Texas where we only have 2 seasons, summer and almost summer. Maybe if there was rain, snow, or icy roads from fog it would be useful, but just by going the temp is a bit ridiculous. I need a warning saying that it is so dang hot, your tires are melting.
5002 příspěvků · Připojeno 2021
I had this warning come on because we had an arctic blast. Very unusual here in Deep South Texas where we only have 2 seasons, summer and almost summer.
Well that is better than in Wyoming where I went to college. There, they also only have two seasons, but they are winter and the 4th of July.
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I disagree about it being ridiculous.
If the outdoor temp is 37 and it has been or is raining, there could be frozen patches. Being in Texas you probably don’t understand that but there are roadways that can freeze in segments. For example, an overpass or bridge could have icy conditions.
However if the humidity level is very low and it just cold, chances are there are no roads. Until the computer factors in moisture content, this is the best we can get. A simple one-time alert of a cold condition. I actually think it should be trigged again if the temp rises for a predetermined amount of time then falls again. Say it rises to 43 for 10 minutes then back into a 37 degree section for a couple minutes, it should trigger. This accounts for elevation changes with sudden changes in temp.
I used to watch one of my temp displays change about 8 degrees on a chilly morning, coming down a short hill crossing the river. That bridge with an underbelly of cold water in a cold damp climate could very well have an icy patch if all conditions are met to form ice. During traffic, not likely but to be one of the few people traveling the road, absolutely.
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I have lived where it snows in Oct and melts in May. I am not from here but I live here. I have the ability to know when the roads may be icy. DUH! I don’t need an idiot light to tell me that. With all of the «hazards warnings» on all types of things from cars to ladders it is ridiculous.
1203 příspěvků · Připojeno 2022
You aren’t thinking of it like a traveler, who at one point of the day was not freezing and travels into a frozen area.
When you aren’t aware of the outside temp it can catch you by surprise.
Or maybe I’m not as good a driver as I think, but my driving ritual does not involve looking at the outdoor temperature. If a person decided they should read the outside temperature routinely then I guess they would be aware that the bridge they are about to cross may be icy. I grew up in snow. It does not snow where I live now, and is rarely cold enough to freeze the road unless it’s 3:00 a.m. with no traffic to warm the surface.
I do travel up and over the mountains and I am aware of how things change in the mountains. I’ve already said it in this thread, but once years ago I didn’t know what elevation we were at and/or if it had dipped below freezing. It had been raining prior to heading up the hill, we stopped for dinner and resumed at dark and still had elevation ahead of us. It would have been nice to at least know what the temp was (no temp displays in this particular vehicle yet). Instead, just had to drive like it was cold and expect ice for the next hour.
A person growing up in Florida who in 2 days is in Colorado with no experience of cold air at elevation or that bridges freeze before the road, they can benefit from a quick alert.
People who drive the same rode in the same climate daily, sure the alert is probably annoying.
Many of us can make the statement of «I am too smart» but there are many who don’t know anything more than where to insert the key with no life skills aside from having enough money to buy a $50k car.
This is clearly another example of how some features benefit a few people and will never benefit others.
