I have the following door handle / lock combination that leads out to my garage. The key for the door has long been lost and sometimes someone will turn the internal lock and the door cannot be opened from the garage side. I wish to disable this lock, how do I do that?
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zeptal se 4. července 2012 ve 16:15
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Could you just replace the knob with a non-locking version of the same shape and style?
4. července 2012 ve 16:17
I thought this was a home zlepšení site? I’d get a new lock with a new set of keys. You’re going to need to spend the money one day when you sell the home, why not enjoy the benefit of it while you live there.
5. července 2012 ve 12:49
Replacing the handle would not be MORE effort than what you want to do. Replacing the handle would take removing two screws, pulling the handle apart, and inserting the new one and putting two screws back in. It would cost you about $30 to «do it right».
5. července 2012 ve 13:38
I don’t get why so many people focus on installing a new thing. The OP is ready to toy with his current lock and spend time on that and he asks a specific question on what can be done. I’m pretty sure he knows he can buy a new one and I’m pretty sure it was his sane decision to first try adjust the lock. Why so much focus on «spend this sum of money and forget about your idea»?
6. července 2012 ve 9:31
A big box store will sell a non-locking knob for under $20. If time is money, then it’s often the best option. For a super-simple option, stick some super glue into the lock tab so it can’t turn.
6. června 2013 ve 18:36
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Glue could fail and/or look ugly. Other options cost money. When you remove the inside knob, you will see a connecting rod protruding from the latch mechanism that engages the lock button. Cut this off so it no longer engages the lock button. Do not cut the semi circular shaft that engages the main lever! Ensure the remaining stub is turned to the unlock position and reassemble the knob. The lock button will now turn freely, but it’s impossible to lock the knob without a key or disassembling the knob.
odpověděl 7 v 2012:1
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Just did this at home and it worked great. Mine did not have a semicircular shaft on the back of the handle, but did have a small (~5mm x 2mm) connecting rod. Works just as described (lock button turns freely, exterior locking works as before).
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Another option is to take the lock to a locksmith and have it re-keyed to a new key (and get a bunch of copies of that key). I have heard that this can cost less than the cost of a new doorknob.
However, as this would involve removing the knob and taking it the locksmith, I would probably just get a new knob and replace it (unless you really like the style/color/etc of the current one).
odpověděl 5 v 2012:16
The Other Steven The Other Steven
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Pretty sure this costs more than a cheap new knob almost anywhere. Also not answering his question.
7. června 2013 ve 6:28
@DMoore I guess it depends on how close friends you are with the locksmith? It depends on how nice a knob you want too. OP said he lost the keys so I wanted to offer an alternative.
7. června 2013 ve 16:35
I’m very late here, but if you have a Menards close they’ll rekey just about any lock for around $4. (Doesn’t answer OP’s question, but may help others)
12. ledna 2014 v 22:57
Home Depot usually charges $5 per lock core rekeying. I believe they take kits like this one and just permute the colored pins to the desired combination. homedepot.com/p/…
23. srpna 2020 ve 22:38
First, unlock the door. Now place a piece of tape across the small knob you use to lock/unlock the door so that it doesn’t move. Next, take off the handle and glue the knob in place so that it cannot be operated. Re-install the handle.
odpověděl 4 v 2012:17
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What if I just put some superglue into the gap around that small knob when it’s in the unlocked position without disassembling the lock?
4. července 2012 ve 18:05
I’m sure that would work too, I just figured you’d get better looking results if you did it from inside the lock instead of outside
4. července 2012 ve 18:16
Does this door allow access to your home from the garage?If it does, not only do you want it the lock to work but you want to use it. Automatic door openers are not the most secure system. A thief can access your garage and walk in to your house via the inside door.
4. července 2012 ve 22:45
@mikes — both the automatic garage door and the internal door are alarmed. I figured that if someone were to open the garage door then that alarm would trigger and putting another obstacle in their way (i.e. another door lock) wasn’t going to help much after that.
4. července 2012 ve 23:08
@Guy Bear in mind an alarm does not actually stop a thief or vandal, it might only scare them (or not). And if the alarm is not monitored, it provides no protection when you are away. Just some thoughts.
5. července 2012 ve 16:08
I have a residential Family Care Home and the state requires that a business such as this have doors throughout the home that will not lock regardless of whether it has a locking mechanism. I could have gone out and purchased the ones that won’t lock,but they cost almost $40 a piece (I needed 6), so I placed a magnetic metal strip over the door jamb to prevent the door from locking, and the door still closes perfectly. Ace, Home Depot, and Lowe’s stock these strips, and most hardware stores will cut them to your specifications for less than $2 a piece. This way if you decide to sell the home, you simply remove the strips.
Doing this saved me a lot of money, and it works!
Introduction: Prevent Your Doorknob From Locking You Out
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After I moved into my current house, I noticed that the doorknob on my back door had a very annoying «feature». The doorknob on the interior side would turn and open the door whether the knob was locked or unlocked. My family has always had the sort of knobs that won’t turn at all when the door is locked, and has grown accustomed to interpreting a turning doorknob as one that will not lock behind them. Within a few short months, various members of my family have succeeded in locking themselves out of the house using this new type of knob. Instead of completely replacing the knobs (zero fun) or hiding a spare key outside (big security hole), I set out to discover how these knobs work and how to modify them to be more user-friendly.
The doorknob set in question has an interior knob with a rotating tab (see photo) and an exterior knob with a keyhole. The door’s primary security device is a deadbolt, and we never záměrně lock the handle. Unfortunately, the lock tab does get turned by accident, usually from being bumped or getting caught on someone’s clothing. I figured that I could solve the problem by preventing anyone from unknowingly locking the door by accidentally bumping the tab.
Poznámka o bezpečnosti: This feature is viewed by many as a safety issue. In the event of, say, a house fire, you can quickly exit without needing to fumble around and unlock the door. This modification does not impact the safety aspect of this model of knob; you can still open the door from the inside without needing to unlock it. You should probably not make this modification on knobs that have keyholes on both knobs.
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Step 1: Remove Doorknob
The doorknob will be held to the door by two screws. Remove these screws and the doorknob should pull apart into three pieces: the interior knob, the exterior knob, and the latch mechanism that sits inside the door. Take a good look at how the knobs fit together when removing them, since you’ll need to put everything back together later.
Try to keep a hand on both knobs when removing the final screw. Without the screws in place, they tend to fall out of the door and can get scratched or dented if they hit hard pavement.
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Step 2: Modify Lock Mechanism
The locking mechanism is part of the exterior knob. That knob has a square shaft attached to it, which causes the latch to retract when the knob is turned. A long, flat rod sits inside the shaft and protrudes from it several inches. This rod is permanently attached to the locking mechanism and when the doorknob is fully assembled, the far end of it will connect to the rotating tab on the interior knob. Turning the tab will rotate this rod, thereby engaging or disengaging the lock.
This flat rod is the source of all of our problems. Cut off the protruding end of the rod using a rotary tool or a hacksaw. Cut the rod close to the end of the shaft, but be careful not to cut the shaft itself. By cutting the rod, you are severing the rotating tab’s connection to the lock.
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Step 3: Re-assemble the Doorknob
Carefully put the doorknob back together. This generally involves attaching the exterior doorknob first — sliding it through the holes in the latch mechanism — and then re-connecting the interior knob. Replace the two screws, then check that both handles still turn and engage the latch.
You will notice one key difference with your modified doorknob: the rotating tab on the interior knob now spins freely. Cutting the rod severed the tab’s connection to the lock mechanism, and the tab no longer serves any function. The only way to lock or unlock the knob is by using a key on the exterior knob, ensuring that both you and your key are on the same side of the door. There are still some rather elaborate scenarios where you can lock yourself out, but they’re far less likely to occur since they all require you to knowingly and intentionally lock the door.
You lose the ability to lock the knob from inside the house, so this shouldn’t be done if the knob is your way to lock the door (knob locks aren’t very secure so if this is your situation, you *really* need to consider adding a deadbolt). We use a separate deadbolt for security, not the knob lock, so it wasn’t a factor for us. Making this one simple change has completely halted our pattern of people locking themselves in the back yard, without having to re-knob the house or introduce any new security problems.